The Many Worlds Interpretation of quantum mechanics holds that there are an infinite number of parallel universes that exist, holding all possible outcomes of a quantum mechanical system, and that making an observation simply chooses one path. This interpretation is philosophically interesting, but has no physical meaning if there isn’t enough “universe” out there to physically hold all of these possibilities within it. (Credit: Christian Schirm/Wikimedia Commons)
Within our observable Universe, there’s only one Earth and one “you.” But in a vast multiverse, so much more becomes possible.
Here in our Universe as we know it, once an outcome has occurred, there’s no going back. Once you open a bag of potato chips, you can never return that bag to its unopened state; the air molecules from inside and outside have already mixed with one another, even if you reseal it. Once you cut down a tree, you can never return the tree to the state it was in prior to you cutting it down. Even on a quantum level, once you measure a particle’s spin, you can never return it to its pre-measurement state. We have only the one Universe that we inhabit, and while future events do not yet have determinate outcomes, past events all do.
But what if there were copies of our Universe out there, far beyond the limits of what’s observable or measurable, that were identical to our own? Would it be possible for different outcomes to have occurred in those Universes, and what would that mean for a variety of systems: quantum particles, trees and potato chip bags, or even entire human beings? That’s what Danny Porter wants to know, writing in to ask:
“If the universe is infinite, and string theory suggests…
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The Black Music Action Coalition (BMAC) gathered once again at the Beverly Hilton in Los Angeles last night for its fourth annual awards gala, celebrating stars and uplifting the Black community by honoring its most supportive figures. Hosted by entrepreneur and media personality Kenny Burns, the evening kicked off with DJ Mars spinning tracks in tribute to three Black artists who recently passed: Fatman Scoop, Tito Jackson, and Rich Homie Quan.
Here’s everything you need to know about the event.
What Is the BMAC?
Each year, the BMAC gathers prominent figures in the music industry to honor artists and professionals who use their platforms for positive change. Established in 2020, the BMAC seeks to create a unified force for racial equity and justice within the music industry. By leveraging collective voices, BMAC aims to improve communities and drive systemic change, according to its website.
Presented by Live Nation, the BMAC Gala highlighted the organization’s mentorship and income programs, continuing its mission to enact meaningful change both within the industry and beyond.
Who Were the 2024 Honorees?
Usher was present to accept the Quincy Jones Humanitarian Award at the end of the evening, with Bobby Brown presenting the honor. “When I was asked to present Usher with this incredible award, I didn’t hesitate,” Brown remarked. “He has impacted both the stage and the lives of so many around the world. I’ve known Usher for a long time, and he’s definitely deserving of this award.”
While on his Past Future Present tour, Usher expressed gratitude to those who have supported his career and emphasized the importance of using one’s platform for positive change. “Whatever opportunity I have to shed light, to represent growth that can help others—what is a dream without action? What is knowledge without action? God’s word says in James 2:17, faith without action is dead.”
Attorney Benjamin Crump presented the Clarence Avant Trailblazer Award toLL Cool J, who recently released his album The Force. LL Cool J shared his motivation for creating new music, saying, “I wanted to show future generations that our culture is not disposable. I just wanted to empower young kids and show them what’s possible.”
Other honorees included:
BMAC Social Impact Award: Scott Mills, Louis Carr,Constance Orlando, and Kimberly Paige from BET Media Group
BMAC Change Agent Award: Ivy McGregor, Executive Director of BeyGOOD
BMAC 365 Award: Live Nation
Gunna received a commemoration for the “BMAC 30349 Guaranteed Income Program,” providing 30 families in South Fulton, GA, with $1,000 stipends.
“I’m from South Fulton, the Blackest city in America,” the Atlanta rapper said. “With Gunna’s Great Giveaway in 2018, I wanted to give back to my community. Over the years, we’ve been pushing, and I’m going to keep pushing to uplift my community.”
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Macklemore‘s landed himself in the middle of an all-out online war … with people firing off at the rapper online for chanting “f*** America” in the middle of his recent show.
The singer-songwriter performed at the Palestine Will Live Forever Festival in Seattle Saturday night … benefiting a charity known as the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian refugees.
“F*ck America” – Macklemore tonight in Seattle. The cheering crowd goes wild. pic.twitter.com/gF8AP6uAje
Watch the clip … Macklemore’s walking around the stage — telling people to “straight up” say the phrase ’cause he ain’t going to stop them.
He then says, “f*** America,” — and, his audience bursts into wild cheering before the clip ends.
Macklemore lambasting the U.S.A. has become pretty common in the last few months as the war between Israel and Hamas has continued to intensify.
In the spring, Macklemore released his song “Hind’s Hall” — named after the building at Columbia University taken over by pro-Palestine students — which calls out Joe Biden and other politicians for backing Israel in the conflict.
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Some Israel supporters — like singer Matisyahu — have blasted Macklemore for his song and views … calling the track straight-up anti-Semitic.
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Macklemore’s sticking by Palestine though … seemingly happy to slam his own country in the process.
We’ve reached out to Macklemore’s rep … so far, no word back.
As TikTok begins its legal defense against its enforced sell-off in the U.S., which it says will ultimately lead to the removal of the app in the region, support for the TikTok sell-off is waning over time, as the actual end date nears.
Several prominent Americans have expressed their opposition to the TikTok bill, including Presidential candidate Donald Trump, who’s vowed to “save TikTok” if he wins the November poll.
And maybe that’s what’s leading this new shift, but as you can see in the below visualization, created by Visual Capitalist, overall support for the sell-off push has dropped significantly since it was originally proposed in March last year.
Will that prompt a change in course from U.S. regulators? I would say this is unlikely, given the current state of play. But it is interesting to see how Americans from both sides of the political aisle have shifted their opinion on the app.
Maybe the U.S. Government needs to release more info on the actual threat posed by the app, and how U.S. users are impacted by such.
Pricing a product is one of the cornerstone decisions you’ll make as a business owner. The pricing model you choose impacts virtually every part of your business.
It also affects your customers. Price sensitivity is one of the key factors surrounding companies’ pricing choices. Customers are well informed about their purchases now, and they are sensitive to price because they want the maximum benefits for their money and time.
That’s why it’s all too easy to get stuck on your pricing strategy when you’re launching a new business or product, but it’s important not to let the decision stop you from launching. The best pricing data entrepreneurs can get is from launching and testing with real customers. Market research plays a role of course, but at the end of the day, your pricing needs to be based on what your customers are actually willing to pay.
All that said, choosing a pricing model can be tricky. That’s why we created this guide, which covers everything you need to know about how to price a product, and also goes over important components of an effective pricing strategy and popular pricing models used in business today.
Choose the right price
Determine your markups and profit margin to set the perfect price and increase your bottom line with our product pricing calculator.
Product pricing is the process of determining the quantitative value of a product based on both internal and external factors. Product pricing has a direct impact on the overall success of your business, from cash flow to profit margins to customer demand.
Pricing strategies differ based on industry, target customers, and even cost of goods. In ecommerce for example, subscription-based pricing models are common. In more competitive markets, competitive pricing is often the way to go.
How should I price my products?
There’s no shortage of advice about product pricing. Some of the advice is great, some of it … not so much. Fortunately, there’s a simple way to price products so you sell profitably. By using thorough market research and understanding your ideal customers, you can land on a pricing strategy and final price that works for you.
Pricing touches everything from your business finances to your product’s positioning in the market, with considerations like whether it’s a timeless, bespoke, or a short-lived trending product. It also factors into how you make a profit selling on online selling sites. It’s a key strategic decision you need to make for your business, and it can be just as much an art as it is a science.
But it’s not a decision you only get to make once.
If you’re trying to find the retail price of your product, there is a relatively quick and straightforward way to set a starting price.
To set your first price, add up all of the costs involved in bringing your product to market, set your profit margin on top of those expenses, and there you have it. This strategy is called cost-plus pricing, and it’s one of the simplest ways to price your product.
If it seems too simple to be effective, you’re half right—but here’s how it works.
Why this pricing model works
The most important element of your pricing strategy is that it needs to sustain your business. Your selling price needs to be able to keep you in business.
If products are set at a high price and potential customers don’t buy, you’ll lose market share. If you set your prices too low, you’ll be selling at a loss, or at an unsustainable profit margin. This makes it challenging to grow at scale. Of course, sometimes it may make sense to sell a particular product at a lower price if you find this increases your customer’s lifetime value, but this should always be done strategically.
There are other important factors that your pricing needs to account for, like how you’re priced in relation to your competitors, consumer trends, and what different pricing strategies mean for business and customers’ expectations. Your existing customers can also give you insight into whether or not you can raise your prices. Start by testing a higher price to a small segment of your existing customers and see how they react. But before you can worry about choosing your product’s sell price, there are a few other important things to consider.
How to price your product
There are three steps to calculating a sustainable price for your product.
An effective pricing strategy comes down to understanding your costs. If you order products, you’ll have a straightforward answer as to how much each unit costs you, which is your cost of goods sold.
If you make your products, you’ll need to dig a bit deeper and look at a bundle of your raw materials, labor costs, and overhead costs. How much does that bundle cost, and how many products can you create from it? That will give you a rough estimate of your cost of goods sold per item.
However, you shouldn’t forget the time you spend on your business is valuable, too. To price your time, set an hourly rate you want to earn from your business, and then divide that by how many products you can make in that time. To set a sustainable price, make sure to incorporate the cost of your time as a variable product cost.
At the end of the day, the price you choose should be what your target customers will pay on a consistent basis. Market research plays a critical role in your step. It’s important you know how much your customers are willing to pay before jetting to your competition.
Cost of goods sold
$3.25
Production time
$2.00
Packaging
$1.78
Promotional materials
$0.75
Shipping
$4.50
Affiliate commissions
$2.00
Total per-product cost
$14.28
In this example, your total per-product cost is $14.28.
2. Consider your profit margin
Once you’ve got a total number for your variable costs per product sold, it’s time to build profit into your price.
Let’s say you want to earn a 20% profit margin on your products on top of your variable costs. When you’re choosing this percentage, it’s important to remember two things:
You haven’t included your fixed costs yet, so you will have costs to cover beyond just your variable costs.
You need to consider the overall market and make sure your price range still falls within the overall “acceptable” price for your market. If you’re two times the price of all of your competitors, you might find sales become challenging, depending on your product category.
Once you’re ready to calculate a price, take your total variable costs and divide them by 1 minus your desired profit margin expressed as a decimal. For a 20% profit margin, that’s 0.2, so you’d divide your variable costs by 0.8.
In this case, that gives you a base price of $17.85 for your product, which you can round up to $18.
Target price = (Variable cost per product) / (1 – your desired profit margin as a decimal)
3. Don’t forget about fixed costs
Variable costs aren’t your only costs.
Fixed costs are the expenses that you’d pay no matter what, and that stays the same whether you sell 10 products or 1,000 products. They’re an important part of running your business, and the goal is that they’re covered by your product sales as well.
When you’re picking a per-unit price, it can be tricky to figure out how your fixed costs fit in, which is why testing different price points is key.
A simple way to approach this is to take the information about variable costs you’ve already gathered and set them up in this break-even calculator spreadsheet. To edit the spreadsheet, save it to your desktop or Google Drive and make a copy to save a duplicate that’s accessible only by you.
It’s built to look at your fixed costs and your variable costs in one place, and to see how many units you’d need to sell of a single product to break even at your chosen price.
These calculations can help you make an informed decision about the balance between covering your fixed costs and setting a manageable and competitive price.
Find out everything you need to know about performing a break-even analysis, including what to watch out for and how to interpret and adjust based on your numbers.
Using a product pricing calculator
To make life easier, use a product pricing calculator to find a profitable selling price for your products, which can be incredibly helpful for seeing how different price points may affect your business.
Shopify’s profit margin calculator is a great way to figure this out. It uses a cost-plus pricing strategy that takes the total costs to make your product, then adds a percentage markup to determine the final selling price.
To start, simply enter your gross cost for each item and what percentage in profit you’d like to make on each sale. Let’s say it costs $20 to get your item on the shelf and you want to mark up the price by 25%.
After inputting your numbers, click “Calculate profit.” The tool will run those numbers through its profit margin formula to find the final price you should charge your customers. You’ll see in the example below that the sale price is $25, your profit is $5, and gross margin is 20%.
Play around with the numbers to find the perfect price point for your customer base and bottom line. If you can charge a higher price, increase your markup. From there, you can effectively set prices and start profiting off each sale.
Test different pricing strategies
Don’t let fear of choosing the “wrong” price hold you back from launching your store. Pricing decisions will always evolve with your business, and as long as your price covers your expenses and provides some profit, you can test and adjust as you go. Run a price comparison to see how your strategies stack up against similar products.
In ecommerce specifically, value-based pricing is a common pricing model. With value-based pricing, you price your products based on the perceived value of the products and services you offer.
Wondering what kind of promotional materials you might need for your products? One of the most common ones in an ecommerce context is marketing materials or additional gifts to level up your ecommerce packaging and unboxing experience.
Taking this approach will give you a price you can feel confident about, because the most important thing when it comes to pricing is being sure your pricing helps you build a sustainable business. Once you have that, you can launch your store or your new product, offer lower prices on discounts, and use the feedback and data you get from customers to adjust your pricing structure in the future.
Product pricing FAQ
How much profit should I make on a product?
There are many different pricing strategies to consider when determining the price of your product. You need to take into account your competitors’ pricing, your costs of goods, and profit margins. Getting your pricing right is something that takes time and a lot of extermination.
What is a good price for a product that costs $10 to produce?
If the average gross profit margin is about 50%, a good sales price for a product that costs $10 to produce would be $20.
How can I find out how to price a product?
It’s simple to find the price of the product automatically using a product pricing calculator. To calculate manually, you’ll want to add up your variable costs and fixed costs. Then apply a profit margin to get a target market price.
What factors should be considered when pricing a product?
The total costs of running your business including fixed and variable costs
When J.D. Vance converted to Catholicism five years ago, he came into contact with what the Associated Press recently called “a Catholic intellectual movement, viewed by some critics as having reactionary or authoritarian leanings.” Vance has called himself a “postliberal” Catholic in the past and has endorsed policies and tactics favored by adherents of the label, such as purging the administrative state and his rhetorical promotion of “pro-family” policy. (His actual legislative record on this subject leaves much to be desired.)
His rise as a national figure has carried relatively obscure ideologies closer to political power, including what the AP called a “subset” of postliberalism, known as integralism. What is integralism, then, and could it influence our would-be vice-president? As held by prominent thinkers like Adrian Vermeule of Harvard Law School, integralism imagines a future when the state may punish the baptized for violations of ecclesiastical law. Kevin Vallier, a professor at philosophy at the University of Toledo’s Institute of American Constitutional Thought and Leadership, and the author of All The Kingdoms of the World, spoke with me about Vance, integralism and the political order that integralists seek to create.
I wanted to start by defining our terms. Briefly, could you tell me what is integralism and how it differs from views held by prominent conservative Catholics like J.D. Vance or someone like Leonard Leo?
J.D. Vance is friends with many of the leading integralists, so it’s not entirely clear to me how far away he is from thinking that this would be the best system of government. It’s just unknown. He’s called himself a Catholic postliberal, which, in my view, is less radical than a Catholic integralist. But he’s been to one of their conferences as a speaker.
Integralists think church and state should be integrated for the entire common good of the people, not just in this life but also the next. But the way that it works is that the Church is the primary mode of social organization that’s guiding people into the next life. In certain cases, the Church can deputize the state to help enforce some of its spiritual policies.
An integralist regime doesn’t necessarily have to be at all violent or super oppressive. It just depends on what the Church directs the state to do. Still, we’re looking at heresy laws. We’re looking at apostasy laws. If someone leaves the faith, there’s some kind of penalty. If you teach heresy, and you’re condemned by the Church and so by the state, something happens to you. You distribute banned and heretical books, something happens.
Can we fit integralism under the broad rubric of Christian nationalism, or is it somewhat distinct?
Christian nationalism is usually very Protestant, and also, integralism is not nationalist. Christian nationalism to me is like bargain-basement integralism. Integralists are very intellectually sophisticated. Christian nationalism, frankly, I think it began as a way for the right to troll the left four or five years ago. It was kind of to scare Democrats. So it doesn’t really cohere intellectually very much, which is why you hear Marjorie Taylor Greene talking about Christian nationalism, but you have Catholic theologians talking about integralism.
Obviously, integralism is not a new idea, so when did its resurgence begin, and why did it begin?
The story’s pretty interesting. There was an informal group of American intellectuals who were thinking of these things before Trump — some of whom considered themselves on the left, and some of them considered themselves on the right. They opposed everything they thought of as liberal. They opposed theological liberalism, any kind of looser, more ecumenical or less miraculous understanding of religious texts, political liberalism in terms of stressing the dignity of the individual and sharply limited government, along with the market economy and the separation of church and state.
The right-wing people wanted to bring Catholicism back to public life and even some control on the grounds that it would have better family policy in many cases. When Trump was elected, though, it really divided them because the Catholic left were less extreme on church/state stuff, but they really just thought Trump was as un-Catholic as a leader could be. The right-wing integralists thought that Trump was a way of destroying liberal elites and hoped that is what he would do. They just didn’t see much social progress unless there was a new elite.
I’ve been told that by 2020 any semblance of left-wing integralism was gone. The right-wing integralists spent a large amount of time building connections with Viktor Orbán, whom they’re very big fans of. He’s a Calvinist, but because he’s enforcing cultural Christianity in some way, they think that’s better than nothing. He’s trying to grow families. So the history, like any early radical sect, is full of strong, crazy personalities and weird fights and stuff.
It’s a small community, as you note in your book.
Yes, it is. It’s weird because you would think it would have no influence at all. Catholics over 50 tell me that this is a joke. There’s nothing to it. But then I meet all these Catholic graduate students at different universities, and they’re super excited about it. Maybe they’re not fully integralists, but their friends are, and they’re like, “Oh, I don’t know what to think.” It’s in the air. I had a blast last year just going to different students all over the place and talking to them about it.
But the biggest thing I think that will change things is that there are lots of priests that are becoming integralist and that can really matter because people go to their priests. A lot of these younger Catholic priests, if they say Latin Mass, they’ve got growing churches. This isn’t a dwindling church somewhere. So they’re influencing people. They’re shaping minds and spirits and so on. So that could matter, but it’s very hard to know how much it matters.
It ebbs and flows. I thought last year, the only way that integralism was going to have a future after all the infighting was if J.D. Vance became VP nominee, and then he did.
You go over this at length in your book, but could we discuss how integralists propose capturing the state and enforcing their agenda?
What Vermeule gets is that you’re not going to be able to do this with a small government. You’re going to need a very powerful executive branch, and you’re going to need a very powerful administrative state. Then the question is just going to be how you prepare a large pluralistic society to submit to a religion that they don’t all share. So the first thing you have to do is you have to think you know that liberalism will collapse.
While liberalism is collapsing of its own weight, you get the right reflective, deeply committed Catholic people into those bureaucracies, into the judiciary, into the executive. It’s like, history will hand you this opportunity. You have your small group. They’re training their own people. They’re ready to go.
So getting there requires a large state. It requires the intellectual discrediting and collapse of liberalism and having the right place and the right time for a new elite to take things in as integralist direction as possible as they can, hopefully with relatively little bloodshed.
It doesn’t seem like they’re necessarily planning some civil war where they take over and crush dissent violently in the streets. But is it possible to do what they want to do without engendering violence in some way?
Well, the engendering is the key because it depends on who controls the levers of government. If it’s still controlled by the left, or however you want to think about it, yeah, it’s going to require bloodshed. So they’re not going to say, “Yeah, let’s do that.” I don’t think these are bloodthirsty people. I think some of them are mostly nerdy intellectuals, then some of them are really politically obsessed nerdy intellectuals.
There are two groups of people. There are people who want to argue theology all day. I like them. They’re weird, but I like them. Then there are people who are obsessed with politics and are hanging out in Hungary, making sure Orbán has an audience with DeSantis and all this kind of stuff. They’re the first ones to really grease those wheels. They like Orbán because they can see him as destroying the elite power of the Hungarian left, although Orbán’s benefited tremendously from the left being completely fragmented there, and so he can create a coalition that wins fair and square.
So I don’t think they’re eager to hurt people. I just think they believe today’s society, and liberal society generally, is just so profoundly corrupt that you’re just not going to make life better for people without what they call a postliberal order. You’d have to fundamentally change the terms on which a modern society operates. They’ve told us almost nothing about how that is, as opposed to banning some stuff.
What would religious freedom look like under an integralist regime?
That’s actually one of the most complicated questions, and it’s one of the ones that got integralism started in the first place. The quick answer is you have to have religious freedom for the unbaptized. You can’t force them into the Church. But if they are baptized, if they’re members of the Church, then they’re subject to the Church’s jurisdiction, which means that in an integralist state, of which all the baptized were members, the Church could direct the state to control but usually to punish the baptized for culpable sins.
Thomas Pink, a philosopher emeritus at King’s College London who’s its chief intellectual but perhaps rejects its politics, has said integralism isn’t going to happen. People disagree too much now. You can’t get the kind of uniformity that you would need for this kind of ideal society.
But you can imagine a very Catholic society. Then people know a lot more about Catholicism, and they know what’s bad about defecting from it. In those cases, you could punish them. The same way that in some Muslim countries, where Christians and Jews are people of the book, and so they’re to be tolerated. At least in principle. But if you’re Muslim, then the policies can apply to you. Now, there are modern Muslim societies. There are much more conservative ones. So I’m not talking about a general tendency of Islam. I’m just saying if you’re trying to get a sense for this, with integralism you’re going to use coercion against your co-religionists to keep them on the straight and narrow. That’s the main kind of coercion that would be introduced.
I’m curious about their view of racial and gender equality.
They’re fine with racial equality. Most of the time they’re trying to deflect worries about antisemitism, which is complicated. Gender, on the other hand, is completely different. They reject LGBT equality in every way that one can. They’ll say, “Look, there are certain gender roles that are appropriate.” Most of the new right factions have this masculinist component.
They would definitely get rid of same-sex marriage. They would ban pornography of every kind. In many cases, they are associated with very patriarchal views of marriage. They don’t talk about that a lot, but it’s there.
This piece has been updated to correct Dr. Vallier’s institutional affiliation.